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Post by PitYak Studios on Oct 13, 2005 20:06:37 GMT 12
It was funny when I first heard the term "nmm", I had no idea it was a "special technique", it's just something I've always done. Sometimes metallics work, othertimes non-metallics.
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Post by MongrelFish on Oct 14, 2005 7:30:33 GMT 12
Well I've tried and tried and tried to master NMM, I wont go anywhere near SENMM (did you guys see magmatraxx? There were over 150 0.5mm "bolts" that had all been painted SENMM!! If you haven't seen it I can post you a linky). I can get the blending right for NMM, but cant give it that real effect dammit..
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Post by dustand on Oct 14, 2005 8:11:01 GMT 12
from everything Ihave read its all about placing highlights and wet blending... I havent got the hang of it yet...
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Post by PitYak Studios on Oct 14, 2005 8:22:07 GMT 12
Most the articles I've read on the subject seem to over complicate it. The link ed posted (I've listed it in the links forum) was about the best I've seen.
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Post by PitYak Studios on Oct 14, 2005 8:32:12 GMT 12
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Post by MongrelFish on Oct 14, 2005 9:15:35 GMT 12
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Post by MongrelFish on Oct 14, 2005 10:21:58 GMT 12
Progress report:
I have now made 5 master 25mm round bases and 4 master 40mm round bases ready for moulds this weekend. I am also looking at making 2 or 3 master 25mmx50mm bike bases.
I aim to post pics asap, monday at the earliest.
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Post by PitYak Studios on Oct 14, 2005 11:11:31 GMT 12
That's what what i was talking about, i reckon that is over complex. Looks nice, very nice in fact, but doesn't look like real metal, looks more like a comic or cartoon rendition of metal. That's true of most of the senmm i've seen, looks good, but not my cup of tea. Kind of like Philip Castle style airbrush art. And it's hard to say without seeing the thing in the flesh, but i get the impression it may not be that effective when viewed from different angles. The cartoony style of painting seems to be very popular at the minute, but I don't like it and never have. (that's also why I'm no great fan of citadel, urban mammoth and those other manufacturers that do overly caricatured figures) |
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Post by c0d3monk33 on Oct 14, 2005 11:54:30 GMT 12
I agree with you Phil, that French 'mutant' figure is definitely much more my style than the cartoon NMM. Imho NMM seems to have been largely inspired by the way metals (in particular chromes) are represented in superhero comics. I do like the Magnatrax figure as a completed piece but it's not really my style.
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Post by dustand on Oct 14, 2005 12:06:13 GMT 12
Luckily I paint GW figures which suit comics more than life. even then i would only use it on some armies... I am painting some Eldar Harlequins at the moment, they will be getting NMM, My eldar probably will too. I just finished (well maybe one more highlight with white) my first serious NMM gun on a harlequin shadow seer. it looks a whole heap better than my efforts on spare pieces. Seriously though 40 minutes on painting a gun... unless I get a lot faster and better at it I dont think i would bother...
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Post by MongrelFish on Oct 14, 2005 14:04:35 GMT 12
Back to the wraithbone for a moment: eggshells are nice and all, but I've decided that the're too thin - I need something at least 3 - 5 mm thick for it. Any more suggestions?
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Post by burbsee on Oct 14, 2005 14:36:26 GMT 12
i agree with pityak it looks more real compared magmatrix.but they are still both pretty cool
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Post by PitYak Studios on Oct 14, 2005 15:52:19 GMT 12
no doubt about that, it's a very well done piece, but his first paragraph sums it up; it was done to win a Golden Demon. That cartoony style is too prevalent for my liking, it goes with all the over-exaggerated highlighting and other unrealistic cliches that have been all the rage for a few years, and part of the reason why I stay clear of the whole gw mini thing (btw, has anyone read the whole article? Did he win?) And as for the sf mutant, it's not really a fair comparison, as I don't believe that allan c is human. can't be, the work he punts out! But YAY for sanctus! Even the moderator of this board can't keep threads on topic  5mm sounds very thick, but as i said earlier, I don't actually have any idea what it is you're trying to do. How about slices of a rubber ball? Dustand; I would reckon harlequin would suit that style too. Spookily enough as I was going to ask if they still made harlequins. I remember when they came out, I thought they were amazing then, and have always had a bit of inkling to do some. I remember managing to incorporate far too many harlequin images into my art GCSE (that's the exams you do at 16 in england if you didn't know) |
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Post by dustand on Oct 14, 2005 16:00:31 GMT 12
Can you reinforce the egg shell with modeling putty ? even DAS should be workble enough to fill in the curves, otherwise your back to kindersurprise eggs which I think will be too smooth to be convincing
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Post by c0d3monk33 on Oct 14, 2005 16:05:29 GMT 12
Yeah....that's why I figure you need to make a master and mold/cast it. So the master can be mighty fragile while the casts are tough as. You could also try backing the egg shells with epoxy putty of some kind. You might crack the eggshell in the future but the epoxy will sure keep it in place Definitely post photos! |
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