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Post by burbsee on Jul 6, 2005 14:59:52 GMT 12
how do you make things out of greenstuff?  i find that sticks to everything and i can only make the most basic items(purity seals) and then they still suck.i just heard that if you keep every thing else wet it helps but i have not tried it.anybody able to help me |
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MongrelFish
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Post by MongrelFish on Jul 6, 2005 15:05:00 GMT 12
Wet is definately a help with GS. Also, once you have a basic shape for something, leave the GS for about half an hour to set a little before you sculpt it any further. Craft knives, modeling scalpels, pins and tookthpicks all make good modeling tools if you dont have anything else.
Another thing: heat does NOT help GS to set, infact it makes it soft and saggy. If you want GS to set fast, I find that putting it in the fridge helps.
I dont know how much of this is relevant but its about all I can offer, if I think of anything else I'll let you know.
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Post by burbsee on Jul 6, 2005 15:07:13 GMT 12
ok cheers
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Post by burbsee on Jul 6, 2005 15:08:18 GMT 12
is there a special mix or do you just do 1:1
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Post by MongrelFish on Jul 6, 2005 15:09:57 GMT 12
1:1 generally works for me, and if you twist it together then for some reason you get a nicer, smoother finish
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Post by PitYak Studios on Jul 7, 2005 8:19:21 GMT 12
Check out :Green stuff tips" thread further down this forum.
Cold (ie fridge or freezer) will actually retard the curing of green stuff. Heat is the only to speed up curing, I know this as I bake my sculpts between applications of putty. What you have noted is that while green stuff is still in it's workable stage, it is very susceptible to temperature - gets softs and pliable when warm, stiffer when cold.
The two properties sound contradictory, but it's right (I always keep mixed putty in the freezer until it's needed. There's still some there from last night)
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Post by burbsee on Jul 11, 2005 17:59:19 GMT 12
how do you move it around i find evertime i touch it it ends up with my big fat fingerprints in it and then i spend 5 minutes getting rid of them and recreating whatever i was attempting to do
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Post by PitYak Studios on Jul 11, 2005 21:20:38 GMT 12
use smooth tools to finish off rather than your fingers, and keep your tools lubricated. water and lip balm are good lubes.
Also, as soon as you have one area done, stop and let that set. when you're doing minis, they're so small the tendency is to squash areas you've just done while working on another bit.
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Post by PitYak Studios on Jul 11, 2005 21:21:01 GMT 12
use smooth tools to finish off rather than your fingers, and keep your tools lubricated. water and lip balm are good lubes.
Also, as soon as you have one area done, stop and let that set. when you're doing minis, they're so small the tendency is to squash areas you've just done while working on another bit.
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Post by PitYak Studios on Jul 11, 2005 21:21:59 GMT 12
I thought that was such a good post I would post it again.
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Post by burbsee on Jul 12, 2005 19:20:41 GMT 12
ok how do you create a item out of it. sanctus said get the basic shape and leave it is there anything you can add to that.is there any secret to getting a consistent thickness.i get a basic shape but cannot add anything to it.for example (not one i have tried)say a grenade you get the cylinder shape but i cannot add the grooves without munting my cylinder that is the type of trouble i have adding detail basically
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Post by PitYak Studios on Jul 12, 2005 20:49:45 GMT 12
you could try making a cylindera bit smaller than your finished grenade or whatever, let that set, then build more putty over the top. you should then be able to scribe detail into the soft top layer, but have a solid core. Also, use very light touches, whatever tool you are using.
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Post by c0d3monk33 on Jul 12, 2005 21:18:57 GMT 12
Patience is the key with this stuff I find. Patience and decent tools (Pityak sells some good ones) and a tub of vaseline. Really. I use vaseline to stop the green stuff sticking to the sculpting tools. Works just fine although it does mean you've got to give the sculpture a good scrub in some dish washing liquid after it's set before you prime or paint it.
If you want to build anything complex either start over a solid core of something else (for example with a grenade you could sculpt it up on the end of a toothpick or bbq skewer) or create your basic shape and leave it overnight to set hard before adding more layers.
I also find that green stuff is easier to use if you mix it and then leave it for say 15-20 minutes to set a little. It's not hard but it's definitely firmer and less tacky.
My 2c.
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Post by burbsee on Jul 13, 2005 16:57:40 GMT 12
oh ok how much vaseline do you apply.
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Post by c0d3monk33 on Jul 14, 2005 8:50:09 GMT 12
It just dip the tools in vaseline occasionally whenever I find the green stuff is sticking to them and getting annoying. It's also helpful when smoothing green stuff.
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