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Post by PitYak Studios on May 22, 2006 10:51:11 GMT 12
As we've discussed many times before, painting over a black undercoat has one major disadvantage in that the black witll affect almost ever colour painted over it, typically giving a greenish sickly cast to flesh tones.
If you want to get technical you can start trying to mix paint that has less of the green component of the colour spectrum, and so will be corrected by the black undercaot, or you can try this mix that I stumbled across by accident last night.
The quantities are vague as I wasn't trying to go for this, but approximately 10 parts commando khaki and 1 part bestial brown gives a colour something like reddish hot chocolate, and works a treat when slapped over the black.
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Pirate Wench
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my favourite finger paint is strawberry flavour
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Post by Pirate Wench on May 22, 2006 11:15:36 GMT 12
I undercoat in white, then I brush a very dilute wash of black over, just so it picks up the deatils and gives me crisp lines to fill in. I then undercoat black with a brush anything that I am wanting as metal. But I tend to go for brighter cleaner colours and don't do a great deal of armor. It's a good method for painting the 'good' guys though, gives them a cleaner brighter look
I did try the other way around, starting with black then whiting out the areas I wanted to overpaint in yellow or or flesh but it toook too many layers of white to cancle out the black, by doing a white primer layer first and just picking out the black areas it takes only one coat of black. it doesn't even need to be pure solid black since you're overpainting anyway
On that same line of thought, has anyone tried underpainting their silver metallic armmors with a deep purple or blue rather than black? or golden shades with a deep burgundy or brown undercoating. I wonder if that would give a new and different look to a drybrushed metal
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Post by PitYak Studios on May 22, 2006 11:23:39 GMT 12
Yep, I do that.
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Post by dustand on May 22, 2006 17:16:38 GMT 12
I usually paint on one coat of dwarf flesh or bronzed flesh and then touch up the worst areas that didnt get a good coat... ofcourse I dont thin my paints much (well not the ones that are used for base coats),
Of course most of my figures end up looking grim and more evil. Not to worry though, most of the backgrounds for the games I play make them sound 'not good' ...
Almost all of my metals get a coat of tin bitz before the silver colour goes on.
I almost always use black undercoats, unless I plan to be painting the figure by building up diluted layers of thined colours... no examples yet cause I havent got a camera good enough to do my mostly painted ogres justice....
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Post by c0d3monk33 on May 23, 2006 8:59:14 GMT 12
I'm a white primer all the way. It's the only way I've ever painted. I typically paint a base coat of all the colours over the white primer, then wash with a thinned chestnut ink to pick out the details and then build up layers of highlighting blending over that.
I tried black priming a couple of years ago but found it so frustrating having to paint 2-3 more coats than I'm used to JUST to cover the black primer I went back to white priming.
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wally
Ambitious Upstart
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Post by wally on Jun 2, 2006 18:19:28 GMT 12
i cover the black in hull red xf-9 (tamiya) and build from there
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Post by PitYak Studios on Feb 7, 2007 9:33:12 GMT 12
and here's another serendipitous recipe
Roughly equal parts Catachan Green and Commando Khaki (a mix I had made up to highlight fow vehicles) - as you can imagine it's a pale washed out green
To a blob of this mix I added bestial brown, about 1 part brown to 4 or 5 of the mix, planning on a dirty brownish-greenish-tannish colour for some ancient britons' leggings. Slapped the paint on the leggings area, did a double take, and marvelled at the bare flesh legs I'd just painted. So promptly scrapped the idea of painting leggings, and dragged out my pile of naked picts instead. I painted something like 30 naked bodies yesterday. (not often you get to say that)
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Post by kingdan on Feb 7, 2007 9:36:05 GMT 12
I personally go over the black with US Tan Earth then do the flesh over that on my FOW stuff.
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