MongrelFish
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Post by MongrelFish on Oct 19, 2005 7:03:16 GMT 12
Has anyone got, seen or know of any good tutorials for sculpting robes out of GS? For my upcoming Black Templars army I'm in need of many robes, and I dont have a clue how to do it, so any help would be greatly appreciated  |
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Post by PitYak Studios on Oct 19, 2005 7:18:43 GMT 12
Coolminiornot has one on, i think, black templar robes. that may be of some use |
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Post by c0d3monk33 on Oct 19, 2005 8:09:35 GMT 12
Somebody post a link! I've sculpted half my Zeltbahn tent and it looks passable but still a bit flat. It's bloody hard to represent curved cloth in 15mm scale with ripples in it I have discovered . I think my main problem was the initial shape I've sculpting over was too regular. I'm about to discard my first attempt and start again...either that or finish it and see what it molds/paints like... |
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Post by c0d3monk33 on Oct 19, 2005 8:14:28 GMT 12
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Post by PitYak Studios on Oct 19, 2005 9:45:13 GMT 12
That's the one
For tents stu I might be tempted to try and almost make them properly rather than sculpt them; make a frame and drape something over? like tissue soaked in liquid poly?
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Post by Aaron on Oct 19, 2005 9:51:15 GMT 12
Can I just say thats a sod of a lot of work to go to for each figure! or are the robed figures veterans or something?
Also I'd like to point out the excellent use of sprue on the base. nice, quick and easy base decoration!
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Post by c0d3monk33 on Oct 19, 2005 10:05:16 GMT 12
The thought had crossed my mind...but at 15mm a Zeltbahn pyramidal tent is about the size and shape of a single piece of small Toblerone . I'm unsure if the technique would work on that scale? If the sculpted tent doesn't turn out as I hoped maybe I'll give it a crack. I've never really tried sculpting any kind of cloth before in green stuff so it's all a learning process. Maybe I should post some pictures of what I've got so far and people can add some critique, suggestions? So far I've been working with one of your 'double flat spoon' tools (which has been incredibly handy for pretty much everything...definitely take that to a desert island) and a custom 'loop' tool I whipped up from 0.7mm gardening wire. A loop tool seems to be the best way to sculpt folds in cloth I've found so far...unless somebody has a better suggestion? |
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Post by PitYak Studios on Oct 19, 2005 10:21:46 GMT 12
I was about to suggest you had the best tool for doing folds already You mean the one with a large shallow spoon and small pointed spat I think? I like using loops on some media, but not all. Works great on milliput say, but not so great on kneadatite. |
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Post by PitYak Studios on Oct 19, 2005 10:25:51 GMT 12
Back onto the robes;
A "fairly" quick and easy method is to lay down a rough shape, then build up your folds with sausages of putty blended in to the main area. Once set, you can go back and add more if need be.
Doesn't work so well for robes that you can see both sides of, but is ok for say doing a cloak hanging down a figures back.
For absolute realism though you can't beat creating your robe from a sheet of putty (maybe on a loobed sheet of polythene) then creating actual folds and sticking it on your figure as if it was a real piece of fabric.
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Post by PitYak Studios on Oct 19, 2005 10:29:52 GMT 12
Hey, this is a cool article But seriously, consider foil for doing your robes too. |
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Post by c0d3monk33 on Oct 19, 2005 10:33:22 GMT 12
Yes, that's the tool. The major problem I'm having with my cloth folds is they're a little bit too 'ridge' like. Meaning I can carve the fold in ok but the bulge out is a little too sharp. I'm having really difficulty getting a smooth bulge without flattening it too much. Possibly I just need to lighten my touch and 'roll' the tool across the ridge a little more. Might take some pics tonight to get a better idea...I've got one 'wall' of the tent left to sculpt and the complex folds in the open side...which I'm nervous about . I'm aiming for something like the closest tent in this photo:  |
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Post by c0d3monk33 on Oct 19, 2005 10:40:14 GMT 12
I like the idea of creating a sheet of green stuff, letting it set for a bit then applying it like a sheet of real cloth. Course you'd have to do a fair amount of smoothing and adding additional folds after you'd done that but at least it would give you some natural folds that you could enhance! Damn, I wish I was sculpting 28mm scale folds rather than 15mm ones now  |
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Post by PitYak Studios on Oct 19, 2005 10:47:16 GMT 12
If your folds are too sharp like you say, once the stuff has set, sand it back. This is often more effective than trying to get the shape right with wet putty. That's assuming you're using a sandable putty of course.
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Post by PitYak Studios on Oct 19, 2005 10:55:07 GMT 12
Also I'd like to point out the excellent use of sprue on the base. nice, quick and easy base decoration! I hadn't noticed the base, that is a good idea. |
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Post by burbsee on Oct 19, 2005 14:50:01 GMT 12
hey are you planning on giving all your templars robes because the new box's about to be released contain a few robes about 3-4 i think for a ten man tactical squad.if you are going to every man with a robe you are in for a lot of work.
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