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Post by Aaron on May 30, 2005 8:44:04 GMT 12
With the Flames of War models Im painting for the comp it seems the recommended way of basing is to use some kind of putty to model up the base.
What I’m wondering is a good (preferably cheap) product I could use for this. I’ll probably be visiting Bunnings/Warehouse Stationary tonight to have a scout around but any help would be good.
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Post by PitYak Studios on May 30, 2005 9:16:45 GMT 12
Selley's permafil ready mixed filler. It's about $7 from the warehouse. You can use it on it's own or mix it with sand, pva and paint for different finishes.
On small scale bases i often use thick construction glue like no more nails, or even silicon sealant. Squirt it on your base and texture roughly, then push your figures into it. when it's dry you can pva and sand or flock it.
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Post by c0d3monk33 on May 30, 2005 9:19:00 GMT 12
This article on the Flames of War site describes most of the basing technique I'm going to try out this week sometime! They use Selley's Permafill...which I have about 1/3rd of a tub laying around in my garage from repairing walls in our home.
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Post by c0d3monk33 on May 30, 2005 9:20:05 GMT 12
Mixing with sand sounds interesting Phil, I think I'll give that a crack. It would save me trying to texture the set plaster afterwards!
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Post by Aaron on May 30, 2005 9:29:33 GMT 12
Would the Permafill hold a model in place?
Ie could I cover the base then stick the models in to the permafill? save me shuffling the fill around the models?
Also would it hold flock/sand if sprinkled on top whilst still damp?
I think I'll pick some up tonight and have a play before wednesday & see if I can come up with something quick and easy for the 18 large & 8 small bases I'll be doing (hopefully) next month.
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Post by PitYak Studios on May 30, 2005 10:55:29 GMT 12
I think it would, but if you have any trouble try it this way;
Stick your models in the wet filler and take them out to leave a footprint, tyre print or whatever, then when the filler has set, glue the models back in place
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Post by Aaron on May 31, 2005 8:16:43 GMT 12
Well I bought some Permafil last night & it seems to do the job. Ive done a base each way (shuffling the fill between already glued models and pasting on the fill and sticking the men into it) and so far the sticking the men into the fill is the much easier way. I gave the models a bit of a wobble after about 1hr drying and they seemed very firmly attached but I'll have to wait and see.
I also dipped the base into sand/gravel whilst wet to add texture, so far this has had pretty good results but it will depend on how firmly it stays attached when dry.
Worst comes to the worst I may have to permafil, let that dry then pva on the texture but even so it works 1000 times better than trying to base with sand & building up layers.
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Post by c0d3monk33 on May 31, 2005 9:20:50 GMT 12
Nice one Aaron! I spent last night filing and glueing men down to base. Got four bases tidied up. Will do the last base tonight and then break out the perma-fill. I etched the bases and then super-glued the men down...so I'll have to apply the perma fill around them with a sculpting tool. Damn, your 'poke 'em in' method sounds a lot easier  |
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Post by burbsee on Jun 14, 2005 18:58:03 GMT 12
hi i use greenstuff on special characters which is damn exspensive but if you got the money why not??it works fine i just pva anything i want to stick to it.
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Post by Aaron on Jun 14, 2005 20:12:52 GMT 12
Permafilling the base then sticking the models into that works very well. The permafill holds the models very very firmly. I did have to PVA the dry permafil then dip the base into sand to get a decent amount of texture and then had to paint this again with watered down PVA to get a good robust base but the final effect looks great.
The Permafill is great for this work its easy to use, easy to clean and a good viscosity, the only problem is my wife thinks this pot of PermaFill is an indication Im about to start fixing the window ledges.
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Post by PitYak Studios on Jun 15, 2005 8:25:12 GMT 12
Here's something not many people know; pva applied to plasticene makes it go rock hard.
Another quick and easy dodge is to pva your figures to the base, and roughly "sculpt" some groundwork with plasticene. Paint with diluted pva (you might need a few coats) add sand if you like, and away you go.
(try mixing sand with your permafill rather than applying it later, and use something like a wire brush to rough up the surface as it is drying)
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