Kleer Kast for water

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Kleer Kast for water Feb 9, 2007 7:10:12 GMT 12

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Post by Pirate Wench on Feb 9, 2007 7:10:12 GMT 12

Anyone have experience with this stuff? www.norski.co.nz/index2.html

I've been trying to find a medium for decent water and checking out the different water effects stuff. Vallejo, GW, woodland scenics etc.. I'm not overly keen on paying out big money for what seems to be thickened pva glue (if anyone has information that could point to it being something other than pva please let me know!) I don't really want to fap around layering sticky white glue over a week to build up to the desired level.

So I started checking out the clear epoxies and found this stuff. There is a reseller on trademe and it's $40 for a 1 litre www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=86929967 . Is this a good price? and is the stuff ok, excellent , to be avoided like the plague. I'm figuring that I'd have to make sure everything is sealed up well before I poured it. I want to make a few fountains and water features with my hirst blocks

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Kleer Kast for water Feb 9, 2007 7:58:23 GMT 12

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Post by c0d3monk33 on Feb 9, 2007 7:58:23 GMT 12

I think Pityak Phil might have mentioned it in the past but I haven't tried it myself. I resorted to using Polyurethane floor varnish for my simple, flat water effects (stagnant canal water).

One thing I can say is whatever you do, do NOT try using Woodland Scenics older 'plastic beaded water'. It's a total waste of time. I quite agree that their other water products do just seem to be some kind of treated PVA glue. Heck it even smells like PVA! But doesn't exhibit the usual shrinking on drying that PVA has.

I'd be interested to hear how you get on with the clear epoxies as I almost tried them but then found an old tin of floor varnish in the garage...

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Kleer Kast for water Feb 9, 2007 9:25:26 GMT 12

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Post by PitYak Studios on Feb 9, 2007 9:25:26 GMT 12

yep, see my little game board post, and the toxic waste dump.

$40 bucks a litre sounds good, I think it's normally that price for half as much. make sure you get enough catalyst with it though, I don't think you can buy it seperately.

Interestingly, although it's sold as an embedding resin, I was talking to someone recently who said it is no use for that.

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Kleer Kast for water Feb 9, 2007 11:33:32 GMT 12

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Post by Pirate Wench on Feb 9, 2007 11:33:32 GMT 12

Well the makers of it list 250ml and 500ml on their website so I emailed them to ask if they have other stockists in the welly area. I'd rather only be spending $20, evenn if I only get 250ml because I just don't need that much

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PitYak Studios Administrator Posts: 2,165	Kleer Kast for water Feb 9, 2007 11:38:06 GMT 12 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by PitYak Studios on Feb 9, 2007 11:38:06 GMT 12 Mitre 10, Petone. Directly opposite PitYak Studios, funnily enough
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Kleer Kast for water Feb 9, 2007 12:03:31 GMT 12

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Post by Pirate Wench on Feb 9, 2007 12:03:31 GMT 12

mitre 10 stock it? sweet. thats within walking distance and our home away from home (been building a sleepout and various other summer projects). I'm still trying to convince hubby that we need to go into the plaster warehouse to buy supplies for the upcoming regibbing project so I can try and sneak in a sack of hydrocal

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Kleer Kast for water Feb 9, 2007 18:20:58 GMT 12

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Post by The Dark Trooper on Feb 9, 2007 18:20:58 GMT 12

I don't Really have much experiance with water but Over on TLA one of the Rangers (PaulF) did this Gondorian Fountain

using Woodland senics Realistic water, its truly amazing, when asked about how he made the effects he responded

OK so I suppose I shall reveal the secret of the water. It's actually a standard technique. I drill a small hole into the mouth of the lion, insert a small length of fishing line, then take some Woodland Scenics 'Realistic Water', and using a toothpick, I texture the water effects gel onto the fishing line. The trick is to not overdo it.

I plan to try this for myself oneday, PVA would never be able to dry like that

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Post by Pirate Wench on Feb 9, 2007 7:10:12 GMT 12

Post by c0d3monk33 on Feb 9, 2007 7:58:23 GMT 12

Post by PitYak Studios on Feb 9, 2007 9:25:26 GMT 12

Post by PitYak Studios on Feb 9, 2007 9:28:55 GMT 12

Post by Pirate Wench on Feb 9, 2007 11:33:32 GMT 12

Post by PitYak Studios on Feb 9, 2007 11:38:06 GMT 12

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Post by The Dark Trooper on Feb 9, 2007 18:20:58 GMT 12