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Post by dustand on Sept 1, 2005 9:15:35 GMT 12
Yeah, kinda made me think of the old personality test thing about what you would take to survive on a desert island =]
Phil: how do you paint stubble ? it looks realy convincing... I never got the hang of it.
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Post by PitYak Studios on Sept 1, 2005 15:08:34 GMT 12
I don't, it's real.
...oh, do you mean on my models? I would guess you are using a colour too different to the flesh tone. Stubble appears literally as a shadow on the skin, so don't paint it as you would say, a beard or hair, but as darker / dirtier skin.
That's a good tip for a lot of skin defects and effects; tattoos, veins, scars all look more realistic when painted as tinted versions of the base flesh colour rather than a completely different hue plonked on top.
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Post by PitYak Studios on Sept 21, 2005 11:14:54 GMT 12
Another little something I'm working on, a custom action figure. not exactly little either, compared to what I normally do.
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Post by c0d3monk33 on Sept 21, 2005 12:53:34 GMT 12
Looks interesting and very angry! What's the white putty? Some home DIY epoxy putty like Knead It or something else?
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Post by PitYak Studios on Sept 21, 2005 12:57:17 GMT 12
Milliput
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Post by c0d3monk33 on Sept 21, 2005 14:55:59 GMT 12
That was my next guess . What's milliput like to work with? That's water soluble putty that dries rock hard isn't it? Never got around to purchasing any before Acorn Models in Auckland closed Hmmm and now it seems their web-site has gone too...did Acorn Models in Christchurch close as well?
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Post by PitYak Studios on Sept 21, 2005 15:41:37 GMT 12
Water soluble and dries rock hard is a pretty good summation.
It's my preferred medium, particularly for larger stuff like this.
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Post by c0d3monk33 on Sept 21, 2005 16:35:14 GMT 12
Heh, no I mean what it's like to work with compared to Green Stuff?
Is it just as robust and have the same kind of 'plastic memory' or not? What's the working time? What's it like to work with as it starts to cure etc?
Just considering if I should get some or not you see...
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Post by PitYak Studios on Sept 22, 2005 9:31:45 GMT 12
completely different would be the best description.
Milliput works like clay, kneadtatite works like nothing else on earth. Working time for the two is comparable. Milliput has no memory; you form a shape and two minutes later it's still there, unlike with green stuff. Being water soluble you can shape fine detail with a brush, and you can make a thin slurry for filling.
Milliput goes through changes in consistency as it cures, much more so than kneadatite which just gets stiffer. Milliput starts off soft and sticky, and gets progressively more cohesive (sounds like kneadtaite I know, but trust me on this, it is different). And of course once it's dry it's rock hard, sandable, polishable, and can be drilled an tapped even.
I would say get some, even just to try it out. Or try Tamiya putty, more expensive, but very good, like a cross between the two. works something like kneadatite, but sets rock hard (eventually - it first sets like kneadatite, then hardens over a couple of days.
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Post by c0d3monk33 on Sept 22, 2005 12:11:42 GMT 12
Yeah it's the 'clay' aspect of Milliput that most attracted me I must admit. Plus the fact it sets rock hard and doesn't have any memory which is the worst aspect of Green Stuff imho.
Acorn models web site is back up too! Lovely...I see they have a range of Milliput available...
Milliput Silver Grey $18.95 Milliput Standard Yellow $11.50 Milliput Terracotta $15.50 White Superfine Milliput Epoxy Putty $23.50
I assume you're using the Superfine White? Hmm or not? That's listed as an epoxy...?
Silver Grey then maybe?
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Post by dustand on Sept 22, 2005 15:18:47 GMT 12
Ya know to be honest imy eyes keep drifting into the blurry bit behind the lovely sculpting, and thinking, wow that workshop looks cool. and so tool ladened =] *sniff* I need a garage =.[
What do you mean by 'memory' in putty? might explain some weird anomilies i am having.
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Post by c0d3monk33 on Sept 22, 2005 15:56:04 GMT 12
Yeah I noticed the workshop in the background too ...that's a lot of handy looking shelves in there eh? Green stuff is really 'plasticky'. You push it one way and it will spring back a little bit. So you've kinda gotta compensate for it when you sculpt. To be honest I don't notice it that much myself as most of the stuff I do with GS is pretty simple...although I'm just about to start trying my hand at faces... I also really hate using GS just after I've mixed it because it's so tacky. I usually wait 5 minutes or so because it starts to firm up a bit and be generally less annoying. I'm actually tossing up between Milliput and that Knead It (not Kneadite) 'Aqua' product you mentioned Dustan as I'm looking to start mastering a set of 15mm North African building walls. So I'm looking for a cheap product I can roll into sheets and cut square without too much distortion before slicing out windows and doorways and then adding detailing once the main wall has set. Stuff like wooden doors and window shutters...exposed mud brick sections, maybe the odd bullet hole etc. Which brings me to another question... Anybody know where I can get a decent set of hobbyist drill bits for my pin vice? I'm looking for sub-1mm diameter bits here...1mm drill bits I can get from Mitre 10!
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Post by fantasychild on Sept 22, 2005 15:58:46 GMT 12
Reminds me of The Thing
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Post by dustand on Sept 22, 2005 16:24:50 GMT 12
That does explain what I been experiencing. I am going some relatively complex conversions on my secret project and yeah. damn memory, I have been compensating now...
The knead it aqua whilst being cheap is like working with greenstuff in the first 5 minutes except its also like sticky cake icing, it does make nice flat sheets that are both quite flexable to a point then they break which can leave a slight bend in it (this is after its cure BTW) They do a kneadit steel as well, I dont know what its like to work with but it sounds a lot more durable and solid... I wonder if they can be mixed...
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Post by c0d3monk33 on Sept 22, 2005 16:54:03 GMT 12
I've used the Knead It 'wood' one quite a lot already...it's still a little tacky when first mixed but not that bad afterwards. The only real problem is that it cures rock hard in about 5 minutes...which means I have to work rather quickly.
It might actually be worth investigating if curing time can be lenghtened by reducing the amount of 'clear core' that gets mixed in. Have you tried that with Aqua at all? I assume it's the same 'sausage roll' system as the 'wood' one.
Might try that tonight actually with the last 2-3cm I have from my current roll.
Man I love sculpting masters!
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