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Post by dustand on Oct 14, 2005 16:58:18 GMT 12
To keep the wraithbone discusion on topic I decided to tell you all about the Harlequins here =] Here is OZ GW's page oz.games-workshop.com/games/40k/eldar/gaming/harlequins.htmUK GW's uk.games-workshop.com/eldar/harlequins/1/Army List us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/eldar/gaming/assets/harlequins.pdfI dont know where Mimes and Wraithlords (WL Added to list by Gav Thorpe) were added to the army list but I think it was in a couple subsequent Citidal Journals. When I find it I will let you know. Models are available from GW mail orders within the classic range. they are quite pricey as well. $5 US per figure, I got these ones AGES ago. the upside to the price is you dont need many. I got 1000 points worth which is 1 shadowseer, 3 death jesters, 1 solo, 2 troupes of 7 each. Throw in a wraith lord and your good. I also got a few of the jet bikes and I am going to convert 21 plastic dark eldar into 10 mime troupes, 3 more death jesters and another troupe of harlequins. I got an extra jain zar pheonix lord for my great harlequin. If your interested in converting a harlequin force here would be my recomendations for base models to convert. Name - Base Model - Part played in the performances HQ Great Harlequin - Jain Zar - The Laughing God Shadow Seer - Woodelf Sorcerers - Fate Elite Death Jesters - Eldar Dark Reapers - Death Solo - Dark Eldar, Kruellagh the Vile - Slaneesh Troop Harlequin and Mimes - Dark Eldar Wyches, Woodelf Wardancers, Darkeldar Plastics - I think Harlequins Play as The Eldar and Mimes as Daemons Fast Harlequin JetBike - Eldar Jetbike (duh  - ? Heavy Wraithlord - Wraithlord - Possably the Afterlife Venom transport - Vyper Jetbike - Dunno maybe Some kinda trap or the acts that created Slaneesh us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/eldar/gaming/venom.htmHere is a place with some good tips and Tactics www.eldaronline.com/harlequins/harlequins.shtml |
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Post by PitYak Studios on Oct 14, 2005 21:06:44 GMT 12
I might give it a go, it's like a schoolboy dream! well sort off, I did always fancy painting some.
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Post by MongrelFish on Oct 15, 2005 9:06:14 GMT 12
Always good, I have a mate who's heavily into Eldar/Harliquins and he can never come up with decent conversion ideas, so I'll point him this way  |
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Post by dustand on Oct 21, 2005 10:16:31 GMT 12
I have started to conversions now, one will be a mime (basicly a harlequin who is a superb infiltrator, the other is the first of 3 Death Jesters...
First step is to remove large chunks of the Dark eldar armour, like the shoulder pads and anything pointy. On the Mime I have sculpter the flip belt, I need more practise making gems though... they are quite fiddly
on the Death jester I was inspired but the article on making Templar robes that was linked to else where... only I am giving him a trench coat, I have used a skeleton head as the basis for the mask and head, I will flare out around the edges of the face to create the look of a mask.
The weapons are going to be somewhat harder, I am going to need a bunch of eldar swords and shuriken pistols.
when I got more progress I will show you, WIP shots are to much for me to take regularly as I try to get bits of modeling fitted in around everything else I do =]
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Post by Aaron on Oct 21, 2005 10:46:22 GMT 12
What? now hang on a minute!
I dont see any reference to Vypers or Wraithlords in that army list! I dont mind you using these crazy ballet dancers in our game on tuesday but dagnabbit you are gonna stick to the ballet list!
I will sulk continually unless you either front up with the additions in some form of seim-legitimate print or offer me some sort of bribe! ;D
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Post by dustand on Oct 21, 2005 12:34:27 GMT 12
I can tell you the editions of citidel journal they are in but I am yet to aquire copies. As a quick clarification, its not a vyper, its a venom, and dont worry they suck. the venom is a 7 man troop transport, basically a flying death trap. The mimes are the same as harlequins with the infiltrating rule, but you dont have to worry about them, I'm not a quick enough sculpter to get them ready by tuesday... or am I The wraithlord is obviously going to be a point of contention here... I will do my best to find a copy of the rules (or forge something that looks authentic, hehehe This is my codex, I did some conversion work on it... no no honest eldar are S8 T8 ) I have already started converting a wraith lord to 'play the part' (tehehe) taking one of the harlequin jetbike canopies and using that as the head. I would have issues with someone using a standard wraith lord. to plain and not nearly fun enough... even if it did look like a hawiaan shirt =] |
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Post by Aaron on Oct 21, 2005 13:10:34 GMT 12
Don’t mind me I was only S*$t stirring. It would be quite good if you do field a wraithlord cause Im short on heavy weapons figures and will have to include some lascannons but so far I cant see anything worth shooting at them with... well some of the characters could do with a lascanon bolt thru them but chances are they’ll do some kind of nancy pirouette and skip out of the way! What about this: www.firegate.de/harlequine/codex_update_cj44.htmLooks like it might be the actual rules rather than the usual random made up internet stuff... altho how they justify something as big as that having the same benefit from a holofield as small mobile man beats me... |
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Post by Aaron on Oct 21, 2005 13:13:18 GMT 12
This is my codex, I did some conversion work on it... no no honest eldar are S8 T8 Yes you modified the strenght DOWN from 10 to 8... toughness 8?! fair enough.  |
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Post by dustand on Oct 21, 2005 13:41:28 GMT 12
OK a little poking at the internet got me some mild results. Article listings of the citidal Journals and other GW MagsFor convenience I will list links of the issues pertaining to the harliquins: 39 & 44 Issue 39Issue 44I found a great article about the Harlequins, seems to be from White Dwarf 105. Since I qot a few hours here at work I am going to start compiling as much information as I can about Harliquins into a Codex of sorts. Aaron its OK to be affraid of eldar, they are different from us (seriously though kids, being different is no reason to think anything about anyone). Like i have mentioned often, the army list is there but its your opponents decision to play against them. I can always tear you limb from limb with genestealers if you want =] |
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Post by dustand on Oct 21, 2005 13:44:10 GMT 12
Hey cheers for the article, They do look like the rules and I have been unable to find more than passing mentions of them...
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Post by dustand on Oct 21, 2005 16:11:47 GMT 12
Another web page of some note is an article list at Librarium online here |
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Post by dustand on Oct 25, 2005 22:19:28 GMT 12
I had a game with the Harlequins tonight. To sum it up, it went badly, Harlequins are VERY fragile, some of the 'special' rules are now things that everyone can do.
Solotiers are nasty, shadow seers not so nasty.
My next goal is to either try and write some house rules for them to bring them into the current edition or to try and recreate them using monster creation rules...
The game was called a draw after turn 4 (time constraints), I had 4 Death Jesters, and 1 wound left on my wraith lord againts an immobilised dread, predator with 2 las 1 auto and about 6 marines with chaos general =\
personally its a draw with the harlequins retreating if you ask me... Luckily they are more for the pleasure of painting than the joy of gaming but it would be nice to have them as a fieldable army
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Post by Aaron on Oct 26, 2005 8:32:29 GMT 12
Yeh it was an interesting game, that 4+ invunerable save just wasn't as good as I expected it to be. Altho I did spend a bit of time scheming as to how to reduce its effectivness so maybe that helped.
Your solitaire with those power weapon equivalents was pretty irritating and I know for future games that its better to target him as first priority as if he reaches the main battleline he'll just dance up and down it wiping out units. Its a shame the Dreddy went mad in the middle turn, if he had charged off into your solitare it would have kept him out of trouble for the rest of the game.
As far as the army is concerned I was very suprised by the small number of figures you had. Are you sure that was a 1200pt army? I know the basic figures cost 25pts each but even so...
Anyway it was a good game, I did enjoy it which means that the 2 games of 4th ed 40k I've played have both been good fun, whereas out of the 20 or so games of 3rd edition I played I wouldnt have called any of them fun!
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Post by c0d3monk33 on Oct 26, 2005 10:51:01 GMT 12
Yeah I don't like 3rd Edition at all. I played it for maybe a year and a half and discovered WHFB and Mordheim and haven't played 40k since. It's just not fun for some reason...and the difference between 40k 3rd Ed and WHFB 6th Ed is remarkable in terms of 'funness'.
I'm keen to give 4th Ed a crack definitely. Mainly because my Imperial Guard get to move AND shoot their Leman Russes...
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Post by PitYak Studios on Oct 26, 2005 11:36:12 GMT 12
I found a great article about the Harlequins, seems to be from White Dwarf 105. Excellent! That takes me back. I used to know that tale off by heart I reckon. When was WD 105? I remember that from at least twenty years ago. Shit. Twenty years! |
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