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Post by c0d3monk33 on Aug 2, 2005 9:39:59 GMT 12
The shirtless gunners do have roughly sculpted muscles...not too bad for the 15mm scale and they're a good guide to painting. I've been painting all the flesh on these guys in two rounds. First is a 50/50 mix of Bestial Brown and some Flesh colour, second 'highlight' is a 50/50 mix of the first mix and Bronzed Flesh. Nice and painless and quick. I'm trying for a leathery tanned look as well since it's North Africa!
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Post by burbsee on Aug 2, 2005 19:44:02 GMT 12
hey cool now that i actually have a good look you have done real well.personally love ww2 and used to lots of 1/35 stuff.specially like tanks and love the paint jobs u have done
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Post by c0d3monk33 on Aug 2, 2005 21:45:02 GMT 12
1/35th is interesting...after painting a few of these little 15mm WWII Brits I'm quite tempted to buy a Tamiya 1/35th Universal Carrier and make it up. The only problem I have no idea of the kinds of painting techniques that would work in that scale! Universal Carriers (aka Bren gun carriers) appeal to me for some reason. They look kinda mad and British...a fully tracked lightly armored open topped vehicle a bit larger than a Jeep. There's also some funny historical photos of carriers being abused...one I always remember is carrying something like 11 men hanging off it...so much weight that the suspension looks like it's almost flat on the road ...still beats walking I guess!
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Post by PitYak Studios on Aug 3, 2005 10:37:48 GMT 12
I like 1/35, but not for vehicles.
you're into a whole other field of modelling there, it's more like miniature engineering the level some of those doods go into. I'm just not anal or patient enough to do all the research and get the detailing right.
I do like scifi and fictional vehicles though (a mad max interceptor is on my drawing board at the minute)
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Post by c0d3monk33 on Aug 3, 2005 11:01:10 GMT 12
Yeah, speaking of the Tamiya Universal Carrier I see there's various web sites that will sell you etched brass and/or resin kits to 'enhance' or wholesale replace bits in the basic kit which seemed a little to scary to me. I cruise the WWII modeller web-sites regularly for terrain tips (water effects, weathering etc). and some of the stuff you see is just terrifyingly detailed.
So maybe I'll file the desire in the 'too hard' basket. Maybe in 30 years once I've retired I'll get into it. I probably will have got bored with GW games by then since we'll all be playing 25th Edition WHFB and 18th edition 40k.
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Post by burbsee on Aug 3, 2005 18:41:38 GMT 12
yeah i would not know how to help you there.istarted that when i was 8.i used to completly suck.i used to drop tank wheels in the paint pot to save painting them.then stick my finger in to get it out.i did not remove mold lines stuck together a whole 35 scale tank in less than a day on many occasions.i ruined so many really cool tamiya kits(all of which i have since desposed of).in my defence i had nobody to guide me and have learnt everything by trial and error and tips i have picked up from places like this(cheers pityak).the good old days.i still have tonnes of old kits and looking back at them they are so big compared to gw minitures if i go back to painting them(which i intend to)they will be so easy compared to 40k and lotr.
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Post by c0d3monk33 on Aug 4, 2005 10:35:58 GMT 12
Trial and error is the BEST way to learn anything I reckon. And it applies doubly so for this particular hobby when we mix all kinds of wierd bits and pieces, paints and sculpting materials. I mean as an example most of the terrain I make is a mixture of building materials, artist's foam board, model ship building stuff, random bark, gravel and stones from my garden and balsa wood glued together with woodworking PVA and painted with acrylic interior house paint . Everything I learned about plaster and resin casting I picked up from either tips on web-sites or just trying crazy stuff myself. Being a really cheap 'garage' hobbyist as well means I'm always happy to try figuring out a free (or cheaper) solution rather than simply buying some expensive tools or supplies to do the job . Hell trying random stuff and having it succeed is probably 20% of the pleasure I get from this hobby!
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Post by PitYak Studios on Aug 4, 2005 15:45:02 GMT 12
and looking back at them they are so big compared to gw minitures if i go back to painting them(which i intend to)they will be so easy compared to 40k and lotr. Funnily enough, I started painting 20mm figures purely as training (see what a good employer I have, even provides training) - when you paint something smaller than you are used to, your regular scale is as easy as painting a barn door when you go back to it. Mind you, 800 "training" figures is going a bit far.
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Post by burbsee on Aug 4, 2005 15:49:46 GMT 12
i had a go and it is so much easier a face is so much easier i can actually pick out the eyes.yey.gw minitures are really good practice for larger scale figures
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Post by Aaron on Aug 5, 2005 9:18:54 GMT 12
When I got my first Flames of War figures the guy I was talking to as Historic Games said when I go back to 28mm figures it will be so much easier.
Im hoping to get some painting done on a Mordheim warband and Im really looking forward to stepping back up a scale. Will be interesting to see if it has actually helped or if I've just forgotten how to paint larger figures!
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Post by PitYak Studios on Aug 5, 2005 9:38:33 GMT 12
That's an important point too - it's not just painting at a different scale, it's using different techniques, many of which don't translate well from one scale to another (for me at least). I can imagine a 1:6 painted the way I do my 20mm's. ughhh! At the same time, a 20mm painted the same way as a 1:6 would just look like a blur.
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Post by c0d3monk33 on Aug 5, 2005 15:30:48 GMT 12
Painting these 15mm guys has certainly given me an appreciation for the 28mm scale. As much as people moan about Games Workshop you really can't fault the incredible amount of detail they layer onto their 28-30mm 'heroic' scale figures.
I'm quite looking forward to getting back into some 28mm painting...might just have to finish a figure or two just for the hell of it.
Much as I hate to say it last month was a struggle and I suspect I may be falling by the wayside this month...the first week is almost over and all I've got done so far is to base coat 4 Infantry bases brown!
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Post by PitYak Studios on Aug 5, 2005 15:51:47 GMT 12
You should try and track down some old Grenadier minis - 25mm, actual 25mm, not 28 or heroic 28, and they blow most modern figures away.
I painted a dozen or so a few months ago, and I'm doing another four now and the detail in them is superb. Not only superb, but quite accurate anotomically, not exaggerated or characatured (?) like citadels. The only problem is I have to give them back to their rightful owner once they're done!
(My month is looking quite good, got my first infantry regiment finished and my second well under way - haven't slept much recently)
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