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Jul 6, 2005 14:58:02 GMT 12
Post by c0d3monk33 on Jul 6, 2005 14:58:02 GMT 12
The funny thing is those ponds started out as just an experiment in applying varnish before I tackled the much large and incomplete Mordheim canal I've been building. This sucker is going to need a 3 foot x 9 inch water effect applied to it over three separate tiles. Needless to say it's still haunting my garage at the moment  ... |
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Jul 6, 2005 15:08:06 GMT 12
Post by MongrelFish on Jul 6, 2005 15:08:06 GMT 12
holy crap! how deep are you planning to make this canal? And THAT would be something I'd like to see, before and after pictures please!
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Jul 6, 2005 16:13:30 GMT 12
Post by c0d3monk33 on Jul 6, 2005 16:13:30 GMT 12
Heh, actually I'm not planning to make it deep at all. Just the 3-4mm of polyurethane floor varnish over some carefully blended and painted water. Maybe with some clean nail varnish on top for texturing. I thought about pouring a half inch layer of resin but it costs too much and I don't think it would last that long because the tiles are quite thin MDF and prone to flexing (yeah I should have used a thick MDF...too late now though)! Before photos are easy. There's a couple here and here or just search my blog for 'canal'. |
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Jul 6, 2005 16:41:10 GMT 12
Post by dustand on Jul 6, 2005 16:41:10 GMT 12
I used thin mdf as well and its already warped up in my boards, I am going to retro fit it with braching before I get to carried away on top.
I am going to run into the nowhere to store after I poured propblem with water... stupid garageless appartments... I guess one of my friends is going to have a stinky garage instead... My Dad uses a lot of resin making fishing lures, I wonder if he gets it any cheaper than the price bunnings have it for... I know he goes to some kinda dealer for it but I know its still pretty expensive...
since my fissures are only 1" deep I might bight the cost and go for resin, but 3 or four coats of varnish might get the deepth I want...Truth be told I kinda wanted to fill it nearly the full deepth...
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Jul 6, 2005 16:52:28 GMT 12
Post by c0d3monk33 on Jul 6, 2005 16:52:28 GMT 12
You can always cover your drying water effects with glad-wrap if the surrounding terrain is tall enough. But don't let the glad wrap touch the water! If you do when you come back tomorrow you will be very sad  . For this reason I prefer to keep my drying varnish pieces in the garage storage cupboard. Any chance you can tell us where your Dad gets his resin from if you find out . |
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Jul 6, 2005 18:17:09 GMT 12
Post by MongrelFish on Jul 6, 2005 18:17:09 GMT 12
Hmmm im still having no luck deciding what I wanna use, but I think it's gonna be 4 or 5 coats of varnish, it sounds the cheapest and thats what I need (stupid me not having a job)
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Jul 6, 2005 19:07:20 GMT 12
Post by PitYak Studios on Jul 6, 2005 19:07:20 GMT 12
I have had it a few mm deep with no problem. I would imagine you can just keep on going as long as you let each layer dry. It's designed to layer on nails thick, so you just keep on adding.
(I hadn't realised this thread had run onto two pages - I was talking about nail varnish there)
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Jul 6, 2005 21:45:19 GMT 12
Post by dustand on Jul 6, 2005 21:45:19 GMT 12
Dad lives in Gisborne but I think he gets his resin shipped down from Auckland (Go Big Cities). Its probably about time I let my parents know I am still alive  I will certainly findout and post the answer =] |
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Jul 7, 2005 14:21:57 GMT 12
Post by MongrelFish on Jul 7, 2005 14:21:57 GMT 12
I think my best bet will be to experiment and see what happens really, and besides, thats always the most fun ;D
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Jul 7, 2005 16:15:12 GMT 12
Post by dustand on Jul 7, 2005 16:15:12 GMT 12
I tried using a 3mm layer of PVA glue about a month ago, I also put a few drips of translucent tamia green enamel and swirled it around...
The test failed as water BUT
Enamel dries faster than PVA, so if you spread and swirl it, it dries and forms almost a laminate shell that looks cool, like slime. the PVA then dries and shrinks which leaves the greem laminate raised off the bottom, if you had the right stuff you could pour resin of whatever in and actially have a 3d slime layer that can be swirled and designed to give a very cool look.
I havent tried the second step of pouring in resin (no resin) so it might need a little more work without resin it looks like some super slimmy algea (sp?) gunking up the bottom of the terrain...
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Jul 7, 2005 16:45:15 GMT 12
Post by MongrelFish on Jul 7, 2005 16:45:15 GMT 12
Cool I might try that one. I have bad experience with PVA as water, I know too that it doesnt work, I was trying to make a fountain and it looked really good... for about three days before the PVA had shrank and left about three different layers of dried up ink on the bottom of my fountain  |
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I will certainly findout and post the answer =]